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Nicky cigreen
Joined: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 9787 Location: Devon, uk
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Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Posts: 6595 Location: New England (In the US of A)
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dpack
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 24 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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bike batteries are fine with regular or top up charging, ditto tool ones, very off grid kit, etc
Everything else is mileage, the number of discharge/recharge cycles and a squirt of wd40 when resting
for occasional use, leccy is probably more reliable than ice
the best ice is reliable, even when rested, most is not
average to good leccy stuff seems reliable in full use or with monitored* rest
tyres are time, sun etc+ use, the running gear and brakes etc on either EV or ICE will rest as well as that model of car is built for
reliable can be a variety of things, cossack, RR custom landy etc, if you like tools and oily fingers
or it can be park a reasonably priced car that usually works to go to an appointment or shopping after it had a snooze on the drive
EV is the easy end of such things
* if it has sat for a while, poke the test button and if it is not reading full and is under 25% charge all the batteries, deep self discharge is not good for them.
the bonus to that is it has a full battery when you need it ![](images/smiles/icon_cool.gif) |
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tahir
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 45614 Location: Essex
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dpack
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tahir
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Nicky cigreen
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tahir
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Nicky cigreen
Joined: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 9787 Location: Devon, uk
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 24 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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I think you’d be ok with an ev then, there are so few moving parts compared to an ICE, my brothers had a Tesla for 8 years, had it serviced maybe twice. Nothing that needs doing really |
I read somewhere ( sorry I forget where) that a third of all breakdown callouts on EVs are punctures
Does this mean they have more punctures?, or, as I suspect, there is less to go wrong on an EV there will be a higher proportion of puncture breakdowns, whereas ICE cars have a load of other things that can go wrong
Also.. a friend of my parents ( never a reliable source) says that when they had a puncture it was impossible to change the tyre, and AA couldn't either as car too heavy (a mini,) and car would have to be towed every time . Is this true? |
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jema Downsizer Moderator
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 28203 Location: escaped from Swindon
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gz
Joined: 23 Jan 2009 Posts: 8802 Location: Ayrshire, Scotland
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dpack
Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 46061 Location: yes
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 24 8:16 am Post subject: |
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the 12v battery is a minor issue, if it is a problem a basic 12v "battery boost" pack should be adequate.
they are not expensive and easier than messing about with a spare 12v battery(or one in a car) and crocodile clip jump leads
if it is an issue, a better 12v battery might be a cheap and easy chop
re punctures, it seems more plausible that less other things are available to break, pushing punctures to number three in the charts
re changing tyres, it seems unlikely that an EV has more issues than ice, as far as wt , evs are not unusually heavy and often weigh less than the SUV/APC type ice cars that are popular at the mo
we have had to take a gas axe to some wheel nuts there are less extreme means that still require garage facilities
a simple puncture, if you have a spare wheel, the jack that belongs to the vehicle and a good wheel brace(car ones are carp) takes minutes at most on a good day, things can be "complicated" but vehicle wt is rarely a problem
the anecdote is not specific enough to be credible as a reason to avoid ev
re resting tyres, they degrade in use they degrade in storage, they last far longer not being used
in the sun and weather for a decade will kill most tyres,tt tyres might last a few laps they might not, drag tyres one race maybe, F1 tyres part of a race etc
domestic tyres, used moderately sensibly, should be good for 20000 miles or more, several years for you and storage most of the time will be no less degrading than use most of the time
tyres are consumables like screenwash or glove box jerky
ps modern tyres are pretty good, probably not worth worrying too much about tyres, if you do need super strong(rural potholes etc) decent rims, run flats, kevlar etc are your friend
pps have a look at the state of the tyres on other folks vehicles it may convince you that tyre discipline is wise and they are not |
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tahir
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 45614 Location: Essex
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 24 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Nicky cigreen wrote: |
tahir wrote: |
I think you’d be ok with an ev then, there are so few moving parts compared to an ICE, my brothers had a Tesla for 8 years, had it serviced maybe twice. Nothing that needs doing really |
I read somewhere ( sorry I forget where) that a third of all breakdown callouts on EVs are punctures
Does this mean they have more punctures?, or, as I suspect, there is less to go wrong on an EV there will be a higher proportion of puncture breakdowns, whereas ICE cars have a load of other things that can go wrong
Also.. a friend of my parents ( never a reliable source) says that when they had a puncture it was impossible to change the tyre, and AA couldn't either as car too heavy (a mini,) and car would have to be towed every time . Is this true? |
I've had two punctures, both were very deep potholes hidden under flooded roads. My brother has had none, my nephew has had an EV for several years he hasn't had one either.
I really can't imagine a Mini EV is any heavier than say a Range Rover or similar, that sounds like total bollox to me |
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dpack
Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 46061 Location: yes
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