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Soil degredation as dangerous as climate change.

 
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Tavascarow



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 15 5:55 pm    Post subject: Soil degredation as dangerous as climate change. Reply with quote
    

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Rob R



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dpack



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 15 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

if ones life or livelihood depends on soil which covers most folk tis a no brainer to look after soil .

hydroponics are ace for some stuff but for bulk crops soil is best

Ty Gwyn



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 15 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

But is`nt that what us livestock farmers have been saying,
But the climate scientists ,that crowd in Chattam house and the Greens have dismissed?

Slim



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 15 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Ty Gwyn wrote:
But is`nt that what us livestock farmers have been saying,
But the climate scientists ,that crowd in Chattam house and the Greens have dismissed?


I think livestock methane is going to get more closely dissected in the future. I hope so anyway.

If you think about it, the methane from a grazing cow is coming from carbon that the grass has sequestered from the atmosphere. Yes the methane is a more potent greenhouse gas, but it has a lot shorter residence time in the atmosphere. The real trouble comes in when you're pulling up ancient carbon and using that to grow cow feed. Suddenly the carbon that cow is eating is has a connection with carbon that had been sequestered under ground for millenia

Ty Gwyn



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 15 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Slim wrote:
Ty Gwyn wrote:
But is`nt that what us livestock farmers have been saying,
But the climate scientists ,that crowd in Chattam house and the Greens have dismissed?


I think livestock methane is going to get more closely dissected in the future. I hope so anyway.

If you think about it, the methane from a grazing cow is coming from carbon that the grass has sequestered from the atmosphere. Yes the methane is a more potent greenhouse gas, but it has a lot shorter residence time in the atmosphere. The real trouble comes in when you're pulling up ancient carbon and using that to grow cow feed. Suddenly the carbon that cow is eating is has a connection with carbon that had been sequestered under ground for millenia



Don`t ommit the grassland that get`s ploughed up for veg for human consumption and biomass production.

Rob R



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 15 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Ty Gwyn wrote:
But is`nt that what us livestock farmers have been saying,
But the climate scientists ,that crowd in Chattam house and the Greens have dismissed?


Yes.

I saw a picture of a moor on facebook the other day that had knee-high grass on it and I immediately thought of Monbiot and his 'sheepwrecked' theory...

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