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sean Downsizer Moderator
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 42218 Location: North Devon
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crofter
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sean Downsizer Moderator
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milkmaid
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crofter
Joined: 11 Feb 2007 Posts: 2252
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crofter
Joined: 11 Feb 2007 Posts: 2252
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 10 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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sean wrote: |
Brilliant. Which bit of the word 'evidence' don't you understand?
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If you do not accept credible eye-witness reports, here is the same story summarised in writing
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Cod stocks in the North Sea are recovering. |
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There is no argument over the setting of a stringent target for fishing mortality. The
real issue is discarding. |
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The lack of quota appears to be a particular problem with cod – where the quota has not kept pace with the expansion in the stock. |
https://www.nsrac.org/category/meetings/
(^From 2010 reports)
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Greenpeace opposed a slight rise in the North Sea cod quotas last year, despite evidence from the International Council for the Exploration of the Sea (Ices) that stocks are beginning to recover. |
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“Immediately I am going to put monkfish, cod and haddock on the menu,” he says. “We are told, especially in England, that cod is very much overfished and we shouldn’t take it at all. But today I saw a multitude of large cod. Of course, every fisherman is keen to tell me that’s a nonsense, the fisheries are healthy, that we are underfishing rather than overfishing. But this morning I could see that: tonnes of good quality fish. That is fantastic for me as a chef to see, because we are being told so much negative news.” |
https://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/article5113666.ece
This article is from 2 years ago.... |
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carlseawolf
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carlseawolf
Joined: 30 Mar 2009 Posts: 98 Location: Ilfracombe , North Devon
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carlseawolf
Joined: 30 Mar 2009 Posts: 98 Location: Ilfracombe , North Devon
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milkmaid
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carlseawolf
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sean Downsizer Moderator
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crofter
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Hairyloon
Joined: 20 Nov 2008 Posts: 15425 Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.
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crofter
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 10 1:35 am Post subject: |
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Hairyloon wrote: |
But anyone who does not believe they are overfished is living in cloud cuckoo land.
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What is your definition of "overfished"?
All indications are that the cod recovery plan is working. Yes, there were more fish 100 years ago, but you could say the same about forests, buffalo, oil....
Believe it or not, fishermen are not greedy pirates who are bent on catching the last fish out of the sea.
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The Fishermen know what is happening out in the seas better than any scientist or eco-activist will ever know. When I was a scientist it took me 4-5 years to convince the senior guys to really listen to the Fishermen which they have been doing for 10-12 years now. I used to get accurate catch rates , where the fish were caught , told when they had come across large hauls of smaller fish , etc ,etc and that information was given freely because the Fishermen knew that I had been a fisherman myself |
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