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Rob R
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 31902 Location: York
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 15 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Variety is the spice of life - there's far too much reductionist thinking in the world today, trying to condense everything down to individualistic traits, likes and displikes. I don't like shooting, but I like having the foxes controlled and eating game, so I'm glad that some people do enjoy it.
The anti-s would like you to believe that people who do enjoy things have no control over their lust for doing something, but if that were true all drinkers would be drunks & there'd be just white spirit, no variety of products or regions.
I like conservation as a by-product of beef production, I'd like to do it anyway if I didn't have cattle but I wouldn't be able to (it's touch and go as it is!). The full-time conservationists rely on me and vice versa, equally they have an interdependance with game shooters who plant a lot of wild bird cover nd provide a lot of habitat as a consequence of providing interest & variety in their sport.
We all [species too] rely on eachother in the countryside (even if we choose to pretend that we don't), and a bit of mutual respect is required to maintain a healthy and happy balance. |
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Ty Gwyn
Joined: 22 Sep 2010 Posts: 4610 Location: Lampeter
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Rob R
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 31902 Location: York
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vegplot
Joined: 19 Apr 2007 Posts: 21301 Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 15 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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oldish chris wrote: |
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Those who think field sports is the preserve of the wealthy have a very narrow view and limited understanding of the sport.
Conversation relies, in part, on the activities of field sports which not only help enrichen biological diversity but also provide valuable revenues for many rural enterprises. By taking an emotional and onesided look at the whole debate serves no real purpose but I expect many who take a vitriolic stance against any form of field sport care not a jot about anything else except their own opinion. |
OK! Add to "wealthy", nouveau riche, or anybody who isn't an actual creative type who has a cue about ecology. So, with 1,000s of acres of uplands, massive potential for productivity, or simply to create fresh air and water, some of us refer to charge over it in RangeRovers, run around in Barbour Jackets and shoot everything that moves. Gosh, that's delayed climate change by a 100 years!!!
Hey Nick, I've found where I'd left my chip - Its back in place. |
and you found your ignorance as well. |
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Rob R
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 31902 Location: York
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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 15 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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vegplot wrote: |
oldish chris wrote: |
vegplot wrote: |
Those who think field sports is the preserve of the wealthy have a very narrow view and limited understanding of the sport.
Conversation relies, in part, on the activities of field sports which not only help enrichen biological diversity but also provide valuable revenues for many rural enterprises. By taking an emotional and onesided look at the whole debate serves no real purpose but I expect many who take a vitriolic stance against any form of field sport care not a jot about anything else except their own opinion. |
OK! Add to "wealthy", nouveau riche, or anybody who isn't an actual creative type who has a cue about ecology. So, with 1,000s of acres of uplands, massive potential for productivity, or simply to create fresh air and water, some of us refer to charge over it in RangeRovers, run around in Barbour Jackets and shoot everything that moves. Gosh, that's delayed climate change by a 100 years!!!
Hey Nick, I've found where I'd left my chip - Its back in place. |
and you found your ignorance as well. |
*smirk* |
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oldish chris
Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Posts: 4148 Location: Comfortably Wet Southport
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 15 12:00 am Post subject: |
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and you found your ignorance as well. |
My dear fellow downsizer Vegplot, a bit of a personal problem, I'm currently bed-ridden due to a health issue. I know I can rely on you not to be even slightly sympathetic, for which i am grateful. However, as a result I have been able to give our latest run-in a lot of thought.
Our differences over OSes illustrate the problem nicely (IMHO).
I have observed over the years that you have a considerable in-depth knowledge of computing and software development. Similarly, over many years in IT, I too, have acquired such knowledge. However, when you compare the sub-set of human knowledge in your brain with that in mine, the lack of overlap is, lets be honest, frightening (IMHO).
It must be the same with hunting, shooting and field-sports.
I am not ignorant. I am not a "Townie". I am a City dweller. For the past 34 years I have lived on the outskirts of Liverpool. Ecology has long been of great interest to me, (since A levels) and I find Rob's tales of hill farming fascinating (but we'll never agree on beef portion size). My studies of the importance and management of upland areas will be directed by the importance of the Lake Vyrnwy Nature Reserve and Estate.
Field sports are a totally alien concept to me, (City Dweller - remember) and on the rare occasions that me and the shooters have bumped into each other, (three times so far) they did rather antagonise me.
So, yet again, we have two large sub-sets of human knowledge with a frightening lack of overlap.
I'm here to learn, I hang on because I have learnt quite a lot so far.
PS. it was wrong of me to be deliberately antagonistic. No promises but I will try to stop. |
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Rob R
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