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jema
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Posted: Sun Oct 06, 24 5:25 am Post subject:

Battery claims
The following link is to the complete list of claims I have been compiling.

https://martindavidwalker.blogspot.com/2024/09/battery-claims.html

The new claims in the last week are as follows.

October 2nd 2024, Altech deploy solid state sodium chloride battery for testing
The batteries are claimed to have a 15 year lifetime. Cheap sodium batteries are a key factor in renewable energy storage.

https://www.eqs-news.com/news/corporate/altech-advanced-materials-ag-puts-first-cerenergy-battery-prototype-batterypack-abs60-into-operation/2139847
September 29th 2024, Hyundai promises cheaper LFP battery production
The article alludes to the much touted $100 per kwh figure that was meant to mark production price parity with ICE cars, and puts the 2023 cost at $139. But both BYD and CATL have talked about prices halving in 2024 which would put current costs at $70.
The Hyundai process which eliminates a production step is a promise of another cost reduction.

https://cleantechnica.com/2024/09/27/hyundai-cooks-up-a-low-cost-ev-battery-scheme-for-the-affordable-ev-of-the-future/
September 26th 2024, General Motors to produce CATLs 6c charging battery in China
This is a life line for general motors whose sales have collapsed in China. News on this battery that can fully charge in 10 minutes has been around since June, but now we hear it will be in cars in 2025.

https://carnewschina.com/2024/09/26/general-motors-to-produce-ultra-fast-6c-charging-ev-in-china/
September 25th 2024, cheap iron chloride cathodes
The revolutionary material, iron chloride (FeCl3), costs a mere 1-2% of typical cathode materials and can store the same amount of electricity.
The cost of their whole battery system is 30-40% of current LIBs as no Nickel or Cobalt is used.
The technology is pitched as being less than 5 years from commercialisation.

https://news.gatech.edu/news/2024/09/22/new-battery-cathode-material-could-revolutionize-ev-market-and-energy-storage
September 23rd 20202, Lechanche launch long life battery with niobium based anode
The claim is a 10,000 life cycle battery suitable for heavy duty mining applications.

jema
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Posted: Sun Oct 13, 24 10:06 am Post subject:

Battery claims
The following link is to the complete list of claims I have been compiling.

https://martindavidwalker.blogspot.com/2024/09/battery-claims.html

The new claims in the last week are as follows.

October 12th, 2024 quick and easy Sodium battery anodes
Perhaps not very exciting, but a good example of the innovations that constantly drive the costs of battery production down. Good news for sodium batteries is good news for Lithium prices and hence good news for EVs.

https://techxplore.com/news/2024-10-quick-easy-anode-materials-sodium.html
October 10th 2024 more fast charging news from an unlikely source!
Fast charging claims come thick and fast. This one is still in the lab, but hey it's a slow news week and it's an interesting read.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/future-tech/new-doped-solid-state-batteries-can-charge-80-cent-just-nine-minutes

October 8th 2024, Store Dot releases ultra fast charging batteries to automakers
The ultimate goal is 3 minute charging.

https://www.store-dot.com/press/storedots-ev-battery-customization-takes-off-5-major-automakers-on-board

jema
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 24 5:53 am Post subject:
https://carnewschina.com/2024/10/14/nevs-make-up-3-out-of-every-4-car-sales-for-domestic-brands-in-china/ When the writing on the wall is this clear, who are the mugs anywhere buying new ICE cars? or even expensive used ICE cars? not just in China but anywhere!

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45646
Location: Essex

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 24 6:51 am Post subject:
It is mystifying, there are loads of cheap new EVs about now. I met a friend yesterday who,s just leased the same car as mine for Â£211/month. It wonâ€™t even have had a service by the time it goes back

Nicky cigreen

Joined: 25 Jun 2007
Posts: 9838
Location: Devon, uk

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 24 9:42 am Post subject:
I thought this article from the guardian was interesting, particularly as it is from the POV of people without the ability to charge from home I hadn't really clocked that second hand EV prices had crashed, as stated. I spose good for those of us interested in buying secondhand but it would make people hesitate to invest in new - perhaps including lease companies?

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45646
Location: Essex

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 24 10:07 am Post subject:

Nicky cigreen wrote:

perhaps including lease companies?

Dunno, my friends Â£211 p/month Cupra Born would show the opposite.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46145
Location: yes

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 24 11:02 am Post subject:
car pricing is not my thing, but Â£55 a week for a new and cheap to run car seems similar to, if not better than, ice mid-range motors as advertised on telly etc speed reading cupra born made me think of scarabs

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45646
Location: Essex

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 24 11:05 am Post subject:
Safer to be a scarab than an arab right now

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