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jema
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 20 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

derbyshiredowser wrote:
These are the ones I have taken 2 large sheds down with

https://www.screwfix.com/p/bosch-s922hf-reciprocating-saw-blades-wood-metal-150mm-5-pack/97679


Have ordered some so called demolition blades as I could not find the bosch ones, but thanks for the link.

Not the right weather today for doing much.

The ground at the bottom is surprisingly dry, though I need to inspect more.

I am thinking a little about the stairs and the practically of getting them to descend rapidly enough to facilitate two levels.

But I think I need to stand by my earlier obvious points that.
1. I need to see what the flood actually does.
2. The minute I do steep, my light spiked approach fails and I will have made a choice that is hard to reverse as I will have to do a solid retaining wall.
3. I have other things to do that are rather more urgent.
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jema
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 20 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    



Think I need a clearing up phase as we are reaching avalanche potential. Some solid bits have somewhat slowed progress.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 20 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Yes, repurposing, recycling or bonfire definitely look in order.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 20 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

The ground at the bottom is surprisingly dry, though I need to inspect more.

at times the ings have big cracks, some days they have 5 m of lake
that looks very much "changeable"
iirc i have seen a snap of a lake
umm

bonfire and save owt sound looks a good idea, the ashes and smoke will be toxic so deal with that sensibly

re the steps and side-slip piling( and maybe a shuttered pour) does seem a good option in places, little pegs are only useful for temps and working out levels etc

you do have quite a slope there

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 20 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    



Through to the edge joist. Seeing some evidence of efforts to retain the bank. I may spike in some sleepers just beyond that point. I think it is beyond high flood. Nothing to permanent until next year.
A barbed wire fence is now visible along the marsh line marking the boundary at the back, it's just a few inches out, as I anticipated.
Not seeing any boundary to the corner yet. Not that it matters much.
I'm finding the spikes quite solid in the short term, we are talking almost rubble here. I can't see them going anywhere fast.

At the ground level, I see earth that I think would be washed away if any of the ground level flooded. But as you say, you have seen the lake!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 20 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

clear the last carp and watch it until spring with temps in place seems a good plan

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 20 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    



Still haven't found a post with a meaningful relationship with the ground. There is barbed wire on the remaining posts.
Still no concrete in evidence anywhere, other fixings are a mishmash, but big nails are ever a sign of not planning for maintenance.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 20 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

if moos visit you do need a stock fence

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 20 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    






So one deck down, next one started on.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 20 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

looking good, the new levels seem to have potential to be stable

the salad on the flood plain also looks good, do they mow it and then add moos, or is it moos strait in?

stock fence, even if just for this season does seem a good idea, a moo in the runner beans can be very untidy.

if you shop around online you might get leccy that would do such a short run for about £100

rappa are worth a look, second hand car batteries are cheap as chips or cheaper

someone on ds might have spare kit worth an ask
all of mine, if it is still working, is steering moos(nice sort of pun)

it will teach you quickly to use it without discomfort but it is ace stuff

the beeping dongle to let you know there is an electric field is rather nice, especially in the dark.
wolfie ron decided the back of the barn was haunted so i did not get him one

leccy is probably easiest and cheapest to moo proof the perimeter

tis a short run so making an in depth and in height multi strand rig would be easy and nigh on impenetrable to moo or 2 legged fox

ps a cheapo 12V pv(top up panel for cars etc) and an old battery will do a short run like that easily

you need to keep the salad from shorting the circuit by growing damply onto the wires(cardboard boxes along the wire lines are ace for that and only need adding to every 6 months or so)
a moving fence does not have those issues but a static definitely does

so long as you have a good earthing spike and clip any plants it would be very easy to do and be very functional/cost effective compared to a mechanical barrier

i lived behind electric with a herd of curious and at times bouncy moos around me, that was rather fun, sort of if one is sure it is working

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 20 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    






Apparently the cows were very close last night, though I think they would be unlikely to navigate the slope. I figure barbed wire, sleepers and spikes will mitigate risk for now.

Meanwhile I am thinking gravel with perhaps an arty brick walk way, made from the engineering brick I have. Possibly/Probably loose lay.
It is a pleasantly large area to design.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 20 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

though I think they would be unlikely to navigate the slope.

some can be very 3d

loose rocks underfoot deters them on slopes but if there is a goal to be had a slope is not a problem to a moo

nor is shoving, slithering or jumping a barrier

physical needs to be adequate, ditto electric.

it looks as if there may be a ditch just outside your perimeter line, if so that is a good boundary for moos(they tend to avoid perimeter ditches) until they are running out of salad or just decide to go for a jolly

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 20 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    



A new post, so we can when more 2 by 2 arrives start to joist and chicken wire. Cabbage Whites are really liking the vegetables!
I am looking at the tonne of reclaimed timber, decking and spare posts and the messy pit where the deck was decaying. It's saying to me that decking material is probably best reused as well a deck. Only a couple of posts need to be on the iffy ground if I don't take things to the edge.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 20 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

keeping soft shoe posts to a minimum is wise

of the deck boards are in reasonable condition a "new" bit of deck seems ideal

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 20 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    



So the deck will go above the sleepers just right of middle. I am throwing in a few sleepers as a very crude bit of retention, it really does not need much in my option.
The photo was taken with my arms above my head and you will note you cannot see the top of those sleepers! It means something could have a lower storey.

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