the bbq/oven area needs high and fairly narrow from both sides and slightly behind a person cooking( shadows umm but better than dazzle)
directly down can work but would not give good eyeball to the oven contents( a spot might sort that, i will have a think)
where is the prep/serving area in that snap?
Nick
Joined: 02 Nov 2004 Posts: 34535 Location: Hereford
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 20 8:02 pm Post subject:
On the right is the pizza oven. On the left is a bbq grill. Between the two is a big marble prep slab.
Underneath sits Brownbear’s smoker. The far left *may* yet end up being a Tandoor.
you need a highish post both ends to support hooded floodlights that light that area gently but firmly, too bright is as bad as chopping a few extra tomatoes or whatever in darkness
Slim
Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Posts: 6612 Location: New England (In the US of A)
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 20 9:05 am Post subject:
Who doesn't love an evening barbeque that feels like it's taking place on center stage at midday?
Who doesn't love an evening barbeque that feels like it's taking place on center stage at midday?
yep, the presentation thing is as important as the prep/cook aspect
i have no idea if they are still available but a upcycled telephone pole would cut in two and make good side posts for lights and the awning
2x tallish(3m above ground) strong( is it ever a little breezy when raining etc)posts would be ideal for both reasons
ps a decent sunshade is nice for hot/bright afternoons not just to avoid making salad jerky but to see what you are doing
a canopy should be quite high but i am not sure how that might relate to the oven chimney tops
a couple of M above those might be my best guess
roller canopy would be nice, gladiator with tongs
tis a nice space and it can be really special as "the cherry on the cake"
pps the two halves of a scaffpole "ranger" would perhaps do the job with a decent block of post set concrete to hold them properly
a few clips etc could give fixing points
messing about with big umbrellas etc is a pita when cooking and serving
lighting can be an issue
imho 2 big posts a little in front of the cooking area, 2 shorter but strong ones a few m back from the far edge
lights and roller canopy are pretty easy
that makes it 24/12 useful with the right and quite simple kit hung up topside
tall posts either side and a little in front of the "unit", if you are facing the bbq oven door etc where you would cook or serve
sgt.colon
Joined: 27 Jul 2009 Posts: 7380 Location: Just south of north.
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 20 12:33 pm Post subject:
It looks fabulous Nick. Is it in your garden or just some random bit of woodland? Am I correct in thinking Brownbear died?
It looks fabulous Nick. Is it in your garden or just some random bit of woodland? Am I correct in thinking Brownbear died?
Thank you.
That’s a section of our back garden. Beyond is fields. But we have a lot of reasonable size trees in our hedgerows and our fields are long thin strips, dating both them and the hedgerows quite a long way back. Fields are also orchards in some places, so almost ‘very open wooodland’ wouldnt be incorrect.
I’m home tomorrow and once I’ve picked up 450 bales I’ll try and grab some pictures and make a plan.
i have been considering the lighting rig and have a few ideas and questions
are there about ten places to put a lamp or chain light?
what is the budget? my thought is a grand or so for the materials to do a good job at 12 v
scrapheap challenge could probably do it but it would be a nightmare to do and maintain
odd voltages can get pricey even if they can be more efficient, it is an equation of efficiency vs costs with kit and keep it simple for a lowish tech rig is probably best
easy to install(i assume you will put it in?) might be good
first thoughts on the lungs and heart are 12 v, decent size panel or twin panels
120ah leisure battery( with leds that should give a few nights from full charge even if there is no day in-between and it is easy hauled and charged if there is a pv issues or whatever)
12v panel(no v conversions needed which is very easy and saves lots of conversion losses of energy)
maybe 4 circuits(easy with a 4 gang consumer unit or even a bus board and switches) that gives 3 for mood/safety and one for a flood light for those moments you need one(find the contact lens is an ace game)
what will be the dark hours usage time?
that is a biggie
once we have had a chat i might up the battery/panel size
under deck to post wires(i need to consider what wires for all sorts of reasons, lv has many of the issues of mains or hv but not in the same ways, are rats an issue?
Nick
Joined: 02 Nov 2004 Posts: 34535 Location: Hereford
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 20 4:50 pm Post subject:
Ah. Now.
Not everyone was in the loop here. And SOMEONE has bought a whole load of solar lanterns, which, while not bright, has made her very happy...
So. For now, at least until she's lost the email receipt, and they break, the grand lighting project is on hold, I'm afraid...
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