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Nicky cigreen
Joined: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 9814 Location: Devon, uk
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 24 10:18 am Post subject: |
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sadly i think wealth will always come into it because to be economical, you need to be able to charge the vehicle on your own home. and that is the select few.
We need early adopters to develop the mainstream, and we need buyers of new cars to create second hand cars, but it isn't a position everyone can afford to take.
I wonder what the mean average purchasing price of a car is to the uk public - I will attempt to find out. Certainly most of the people I associate with would struggle to find 20k for a car and most would need finance which is definitely part of the money equation.
I'm not asking questions to make a point, I am attempting to be informed. Mostly, it seems people are completely for or completely against EVs, whereas I am sure the answer lies somewhere in the middle and is variable depending on each individual case.
its good to know your brother's Tesla would still fetch a reasonable amount of money - I find myself put off completely by Musk supporting Trump... so even a second hand car has a sort of association! but as you say, there are other smaller makes and models, things have changed a lot just since the beginning of this thread! I'm convinced I will get an EV, eventually, but i want to be informed about my choice. (fiat e500 much more likely than a tesla!) |
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Slim
Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Posts: 6598 Location: New England (In the US of A)
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tahir
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tahir
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Nicky cigreen
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tahir
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jema Downsizer Moderator
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 28216 Location: escaped from Swindon
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Nicky cigreen
Joined: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 9814 Location: Devon, uk
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Nicky cigreen
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tahir
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tahir
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dpack
Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 46110 Location: yes
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jema Downsizer Moderator
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 28216 Location: escaped from Swindon
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jema Downsizer Moderator
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 28216 Location: escaped from Swindon
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jema Downsizer Moderator
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 28216 Location: escaped from Swindon
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Posted: Sun Sep 29, 24 9:53 am Post subject: |
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Battery claims
The following link is to the complete list of claims I have been compiling.
https://martindavidwalker.blogspot.com/2024/09/battery-claims.html
The new claims in the last week are as follows.
September 29th 2024, Hyundai promises cheaper LFP battery production
The article alludes to the much touted $100 per kwh figure that was meant to mark production price parity with ICE cars, and puts the 2023 cost at $139. But both BYD and CATL have talked about prices halving in 2024 which would put current costs at $70.
The Hyundai process which eliminates a production step is a promise of another cost reduction.
https://cleantechnica.com/2024/09/27/hyundai-cooks-up-a-low-cost-ev-battery-scheme-for-the-affordable-ev-of-the-future/
September 26th 2024, General Motors to produce CATLs 6c charging battery in China
This is a life line for general motors whose sales have collapsed in China. News on this battery that can fully charge in 10 minutes has been around since June, but now we hear it will be in cars in 2025.
https://carnewschina.com/2024/09/26/general-motors-to-produce-ultra-fast-6c-charging-ev-in-china/
September 25th 2024, cheap iron chloride cathodes
The revolutionary material, iron chloride (FeCl3), costs a mere 1-2% of typical cathode materials and can store the same amount of electricity.
The cost of their whole battery system is 30-40% of current LIBs as no Nickel or Cobalt is used.
The technology is pitched as being less than 5 years from commercialisation.
https://news.gatech.edu/news/2024/09/22/new-battery-cathode-material-could-revolutionize-ev-market-and-energy-storage
September 23rd 20202, Lechanche launch long life battery with niobium based anode
The claim is a 10,000 life cycle battery suitable for heavy duty mining applications.
https://www.cambridgenetwork.co.uk/news/leclanche-launches-xn50-worlds-first-li-ion-commercial-cell-featuring-echion-technologies-xnor |
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