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Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 25 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

We planted a Himalayan Giant blackberry for the same reason Dpack. It is effective at keeping people out, but is a bit tricky to control.

Managed to transfer compost onto the last raised bed yesterday and dug out a bit of another older bed which is in a state of collapse. I want to do a bit more before the peas go in and if possible to have some beans in there too.

Florence



Joined: 15 Mar 2025
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 25 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

The spring bulbs are still going over untidy fashion but one has to wait so that they come back next year.

There's the first signs of the nasturtiums getting their act together together. That is the hope of colour to come.

With no greenhouse this year, I'm not doing edibles. It's going to be flowers and shrubs only.

gz



Joined: 23 Jan 2009
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Location: Ayrshire, Scotland
PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 25 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Tomato and pepper seedlings up

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 25 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

can you smell that?
i love the smell of manure in the morning
it smells of... growth


perfect day for deep watering everything and manure top dressing the frankenapples (see adventures in grafting)

Mistress Rose



Joined: 21 Jul 2011
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 25 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Round here manure smells generally of pigs or humanure I am afraid, not growth. Compost can smell of growth.

We had a busy day doing other things yesterday, but I am hoping to do a bit in the garden today, although I also have biscuits to bake, so will be limited. Next job is to cut the grass round the raised beds and make sure there are not places for slugs and snails to hide before I put the cabbage and pea seedlings out.

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 25 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

well rotted, organic, deep litter from assorted critters
i got it in bags, tis as good as any i have used and only

simpahome via amazon*, about £20 for 80 liters

not enough for an allotment etc but fine for planters and pots

*no excuses, they sell stuff i need/want that i cannot seek out in person or find at better value
there are tactics that make amazon buying even better value than the first hit on the thing you need

industrial and scientific is good,
look , hold in basket and wait
look for the production "over runs"(posh item, same build but not named) some of my camera batteries are £80 some are £10, same plastics in the photos and the same numbers printed on them, missing the name
= same item on the inside(those are the ones i can power or charge from a usb supply of any nature in the camera's double battery strap on)

gz



Joined: 23 Jan 2009
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Location: Ayrshire, Scotland
PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 25 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Mistress Rose wrote:
Round here manure smells generally of pigs or humanure I am afraid, not growth..


Isn't it true that pigs and humans are physically alike in many ways?

dpack



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 25 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

very alike biologically

most pigs tend to have nicer personalities

gz



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 25 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Who wrote the poem about the drunkard in the gutter that finishes with the line "and the pig got up and slowly walked away".....?

dpack



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 25 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

ddg came up with this and other versions of ANON

pigs are ace

as far as "farm animals" go, chook pig moo etc (a good dog might be high on the awards list

sheep might best be harvested with a bow from their grazing lairs, horrible things, they do not like me either, none have eaten me but i know to grow mint

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 25 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Brilliant.

Personally I like sheep, although some of the older breeds want watching. I baby sat a Soay ram lamb one afternoon, and judging by its subsequent behaviour, it might have been better if I had let it walk into the clay oven. It got sent to Wales in disgrace in the end, having proved to only be good for covering ewes and otherwise being unmanageable. Shetlands are nice, and so are their fleeces. I am always wary of pigs, and judging by the behaviour of wild boar/Tamworth crosses, they can be totally impossible. I understand Channel Island bulls can be rather tricky as well.

dpack



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 25 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

re moos, for dangeroos, any can be even if they do not mean it
-----------------------
steers. immature bulls in a herd with mothers and babies (and maybe a bull)

mothers with babies

one type herds in their patch
--------------
lots of random moos in a panic
"""" escaping

a random moo in an unexpected place

any sort of fright among a calm herd
------------------
breakfast dodging coo horns while they scamper around a feeder is interesting
--------------------
misinterpreted curiosity , in either direction
-----------------------------------------
misinterpreted "intimate care"

you killed my sister, i didn't but i was doing intimate calving care and it was unlikely to help, can lead to blood feud (the killer kerry was difficult until she was burgers:roll:)
---------------------------------------

plain clumsy mind yer feet etc

===========================
humorous, "would it be funny to lean on him?" that one can squash you bad style against a stall
==============================

enthusiastic in whatever way
"playing" with each other
bitten by a fly
all can be dangeroos if you or they get surprised by anything

--------------------------

a well trained bull will come if you call him, bigger than a mutt but they interact in similar ways for slightly different motivations

taking a stone from a bull's toes, untethered, in the open, was easier than getting burdock burrs out of a lakeland terrier's fur with him tied to a piano leg
(he was a monster who taught me lots of useful things)

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 43934
Location: yes
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 25 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

re moos, for dangeroos, any can be even if they do not mean it
-----------------------
steers. immature bulls in a herd with mothers and babies (and maybe a bull)

mothers with babies

one type herds in their patch
--------------
lots of random moos in a panic
"""" escaping

a random moo in an unexpected place

any sort of fright among a calm herd
------------------
breakfast dodging coo horns while they scamper around a feeder is interesting
--------------------
misinterpreted curiosity , in either direction
-----------------------------------------
misinterpreted "intimate care"

you killed my sister, i didn't but i was doing intimate calving care and it was unlikely to help, can lead to blood feud (the killer kerry was difficult until she was burgers:roll:)
---------------------------------------

plain clumsy mind yer feet etc

===========================
humorous, "would it be funny to lean on him?" that one can squash you bad style against a stall
==============================

enthusiastic in whatever way
"playing" with each other
bitten by a fly
all can be dangeroos if you or they get surprised by anything

--------------------------

a well trained bull will come if you call him, bigger than a mutt but they interact in similar ways for slightly different motivations

taking a stone from a bull's toes, untethered, in the open, was easier than getting burdock burrs out of a lakeland terrier's fur with him tied to a piano leg
(he was a monster who taught me lots of useful things)

dpack



Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 43934
Location: yes
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 25 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

back to the manure theme

multi species is good

pig high density potassium
chook high density nitrogen
moo bulk and nutrients
horse bulk, nitrogen and things
guinea pig bulk and nutrients
etc

Mistress Rose



Joined: 21 Jul 2011
Posts: 16315

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 25 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Yes, unfortunately a local farmer here was killed by a bull he was usually on good terms with.

As for manure, good if you can easily get it.

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