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dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: yes

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 25 7:59 am Post subject:
can you smell that? i love the smell of manure in the morning it smells of... growth perfect day for deep watering everything and manure top dressing the frankenapples (see adventures in grafting)

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
Posts: 16327

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 25 8:07 am Post subject:

Round here manure smells generally of pigs or humanure I am afraid, not growth. Compost can smell of growth.

We had a busy day doing other things yesterday, but I am hoping to do a bit in the garden today, although I also have biscuits to bake, so will be limited. Next job is to cut the grass round the raised beds and make sure there are not places for slugs and snails to hide before I put the cabbage and pea seedlings out.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: yes

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 25 8:26 am Post subject:

well rotted, organic, deep litter from assorted critters
i got it in bags, tis as good as any i have used and only

simpahome via amazon*, about Â£20 for 80 liters

not enough for an allotment etc but fine for planters and pots

*no excuses, they sell stuff i need/want that i cannot seek out in person or find at better value
there are tactics that make amazon buying even better value than the first hit on the thing you need

industrial and scientific is good,
look , hold in basket and wait
look for the production "over runs"(posh item, same build but not named) some of my camera batteries are Â£80 some are Â£10, same plastics in the photos and the same numbers printed on them, missing the name
= same item on the inside(those are the ones i can power or charge from a usb supply of any nature in the camera's double battery strap on)

gz

Joined: 23 Jan 2009
Posts: 9095
Location: Ayrshire, Scotland

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 25 9:01 am Post subject:

Mistress Rose wrote:

Round here manure smells generally of pigs or humanure I am afraid, not growth..

Isn't it true that pigs and humans are physically alike in many ways?

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: yes

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 25 9:02 am Post subject:
very alike biologically most pigs tend to have nicer personalities

gz

Joined: 23 Jan 2009
Posts: 9095
Location: Ayrshire, Scotland

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 25 9:34 am Post subject:
Who wrote the poem about the drunkard in the gutter that finishes with the line "and the pig got up and slowly walked away".....?

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 43946
Location: yes

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 25 10:00 am Post subject:
ddg came up with this and other versions of ANON pigs are ace as far as "farm animals" go, chook pig moo etc (a good dog might be high on the awards list sheep might best be harvested with a bow from their grazing lairs, horrible things, they do not like me either, none have eaten me but i know to grow mint

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
Posts: 16327

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 25 6:54 am Post subject:

Brilliant.

Personally I like sheep, although some of the older breeds want watching. I baby sat a Soay ram lamb one afternoon, and judging by its subsequent behaviour, it might have been better if I had let it walk into the clay oven. It got sent to Wales in disgrace in the end, having proved to only be good for covering ewes and otherwise being unmanageable. Shetlands are nice, and so are their fleeces. I am always wary of pigs, and judging by the behaviour of wild boar/Tamworth crosses, they can be totally impossible. I understand Channel Island bulls can be rather tricky as well.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 43946
Location: yes

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 25 3:42 pm Post subject:

re moos, for dangeroos, any can be even if they do not mean it
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steers. immature bulls in a herd with mothers and babies (and maybe a bull)

mothers with babies

one type herds in their patch
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lots of random moos in a panic
"""" escaping

a random moo in an unexpected place

any sort of fright among a calm herd
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breakfast

dodging coo horns while they scamper around a feeder is interesting
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misinterpreted curiosity , in either direction
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misinterpreted "intimate care"

you killed my sister, i didn't but i was doing intimate calving care and it was unlikely to help, can lead to blood feud (the killer kerry was difficult until she was burgers:roll:)
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plain clumsy

mind yer feet etc

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humorous, "would it be funny to lean on him?" that one can squash you bad style against a stall
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enthusiastic in whatever way
"playing" with each other
bitten by a fly
all can be dangeroos if you or they get surprised by anything

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a well trained bull will come if you call him, bigger than a mutt but they interact in similar ways for slightly different motivations

taking a stone from a bull's toes, untethered, in the open, was easier than getting burdock burrs out of a lakeland terrier's fur with him tied to a piano leg

(he was a monster who taught me lots of useful things)

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 43946
Location: yes

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 25 3:44 pm Post subject:

(he was a monster who taught me lots of useful things)

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 43946
Location: yes

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 25 3:54 pm Post subject:
back to the manure theme multi species is good pig high density potassium chook high density nitrogen moo bulk and nutrients horse bulk, nitrogen and things guinea pig bulk and nutrients etc

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
Posts: 16327

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 25 6:48 am Post subject:
Yes, unfortunately a local farmer here was killed by a bull he was usually on good terms with. As for manure, good if you can easily get it.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: yes

Posted: Thu May 01, 25 3:10 pm Post subject:
shaded air temp 26.5C sun warmed soil temp at 5 cm, 17C rather hot for mayday in the middleish bit of these islands nice for the "maybe"early plantings, im not sure what to go for if this year is another "record heat event" the cucumbers and tings should be ok with watering im wondering if i should try a few hot place things that i rather like

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
Posts: 16327

Posted: Fri May 02, 25 6:48 am Post subject:

Well I wouldn't bother yet. The temperature here is supposed to be 10 C cooler next week.

I went to a Forestry Commission do some years ago and one of the 'experts' was saying we should be planting eastern Mediterranean trees. Since then we have had cold, wet, dry, hot, so rather suspect anyone trying it has lost the lot. Certainly I don't think they would have liked the winter we have been through as it has been very wet, as was last summer.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 43946
Location: yes

Posted: Fri May 02, 25 10:10 am Post subject:

the cucumbers have hatched, they are not going out for a while

temp is one aspect, the other is they are more slimey hoard resistant when they are 6 weeks or more old
i suspect they do not taste nice once they get beyond toddler stage

there are quite a few plants that get munched when young and not munched when a bit older

the ones that thrive here only get munched by me, the rocket(self sown with a bit of help) is rampant and delicious for humans, wildlife does not seem to like it

the green leafy thing from japan is taking caterpillar damage, the green and purple leafy thing from japan is almost unmunched
both taste ok to me and i dont usually like purple plants

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