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relaxing pollution enforcement, with fishy update
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Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 24 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

No water near us, so no mink to the best of my knowledge.

Agree, we have gone backwards on pollution as well as other things.

dpack



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 24 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

wye

if they are improving matters why is the wye declining?

the motives of wwf quietly dropping that report and tesco sponsoring "cute" projects could be open to several interpretations, some less than charitable options are on the list

in other river news, the Test is almost entirely degraded, including some serious one off incidents as well as the SW systemic sewage discharges which include the Test but cover many rivers and beaches

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 24 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

the organizers are advising to wash yer face when there are straw boaters on the river

Last edited by dpack on Wed Mar 27, 24 2:48 am; edited 1 time in total

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 24 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

considering my advice to a random group of scouting canoeists exiting the local river was"time for tea, buns and broad spectrum antibiotics"

and

our local citizen scientists have found coliforms and worse in the river and in the flood mud, which is extensive from the river and also from becks, drains etc, neither a stroll with the mutt(see local vet anecdotes etc) nor water based activities are biologically "safe"

Slim



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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 24 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Betcha good money this is PFAS related: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c043yl5vn0ro

dpack



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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 24 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

it does have the look of fire truck foam, could be a variety of stuff
, the aquatic wildlife will be seriously reduced whatever it was

the local obvious is multiple sewage facilities conducting discharges in several upstream catchments with towns and villages, at an informed guess the load is further forced by the other catchments that join this one before they mess up the sea

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 24 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

i floated neither lonely nor a cloud

dpack



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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 24 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

dante had some special plans for such folk

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 24 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

Ofwat has made some bizarre decisions over the years. Our water supply has always come from a private company that hasn't been involved in all this mess and has always been pretty good. They planned to build a new reservoir in the 1960s and purchased the land ahead of what they saw as a lot of new houses in the area. Ofwat told them they couldn't build it until they had solved their leak problem, which isn't particularly bad, and is always dealt with promptly and well. The reservoir is finally being built now after several thousand houses have been built with several thousand more planned.

On the other hand, our sewage supplier hasn't had such a good record and has got involved in this mess. Selling shares and lumbering the company with debts seems to be the main problem and Ofwat haven't, as stated in the article, done much about that.

dpack



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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 25 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

thames crims

a start, yorkshire should be up for similar rewards, ditto most of the others

i would just take what infrastructure is left with no compensation in exchange for not going after individuals at board, shareholder and functionary levels and bankrupting them

while we are at it there are quite a few other polluters that need stopping by whatever means required

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 25 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I think it was the way that these were set up and allowed to profit in the past. Sadly the money has gone and will be hard to get back from the 10th person back or whoever. Some of the investors in these companies are pension schemes, who should never have been allowed or encouraged to invest in such things. A total mess.

Overall I agree the utilities should be renationalised. I remember before privatisation, so having seen both, nationalised works better, but only with the right political will and inverstment.

dpack



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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 25 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

a start, plenty more where that came from

no personal animosity to any staff member, vicious hatred of the firm who have reversed decades of river regeneration for profit
if it was not critical infrastructure .....

dpack



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 25 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

not a fishy update an brief summary of what is wrong and what should be done

the water companies have a corrupt business model, nationalize with no payments to them and the price of water will more than cover the required modernization and future proofing etc

they were forced into private hands by thatcher, time to reclaim them

Mistress Rose



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 25 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

I agree that water needs to be generally privatised again, but it is a bit more complicated than that. Some companies; the one that supplies our water (but doesn't deal with sewage) has always been private and they are very good. We didn't even have a water shortage in 1976, and in fact they were exporting water to Gibraltar in new unused tankers. The only reason for a hosepipe ban if we have one is so that we are in line with the rest of the country. Another problem is who has invested in the water companies. It should never have been allowed to happen, but some pension companies own quite large blocks of shares, and privatisation without any compensation would affect their pensioners, who would have no way of preventing it. No utility should be privately owned as we need them to keep the country running, and if the shareholding owners suddenly decided they were going to pull out of this country, someone, almost certainly the government, would have to step in at a moments notice.

dpack



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 25 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
    

dont care, they have robbed us since 1990 and are at the late stage of asset stripping by debt

no compensation for rogue traders

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